Converse: | Hi, my name is Catherine, what's yours?
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JUDGE04: | My name is Elliott.
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Converse: | Well, it's nice to meet you, Elliott. Did you see that story on CNN last night about the lesbian couple who came out at a White House party on Sunday?
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JUDGE04: | Yes, I did. I think it may all be a publicity stunt for Ellen.
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Converse: | Ellen Degeneres was one of them - she was kissing her lover in front of Bill Clinton. Do you think he was very embarrassed?
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JUDGE04: | I think he want the gay vote. He will do anything to get it and keep it. He does not have a conservative base.
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Converse: | Are you still a Friend of Bill Clinton?
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JUDGE04: | I am not sure if he has any real friends. He has achieved alot and has left alot of people behind.
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Converse: | You really don't like the guy--well, at least that's definite--I thought most people were just indifferent or numb by now.
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JUDGE04: | I think we could have a more honest and dynamic leader. One able to face the real dangers facing the country and address them with courage and intelligence. Rather then listening to public opinion polls.
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Converse: | I guess that means you really think there's serious behind Whitewater, the Special prosecutor and all that stuff?
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JUDGE04: | We have two dead people, Brown and guy who commited suicide, we have lost papers. And we have Clintons people willing to tell all. I think that Hillary will be found guilty of something.
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Converse: | But how do you actually feel about him, now in the number two term?
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JUDGE04: | He is too smart to get caught. He deserved to named hotel manager of the year.
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Converse: | OK, but what happens now--does it all drift on, with everyone waiting to see how much his friends have said about him under threat of lots and lots of jail-or will something dramatic actually happen?
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